Monday, July 26, 2010

So my elderly aunt was talking about Michelle Rhee the other day...

I didn’t realize how strongly news of Michelle Rhee’s firings resonated until several people who don’t even live around here asked this weekend what I thought of them. “Is this a big deal, or not?” they said. I explained how in theory getting fired for performance reasons isn’t shocking, but in teaching it is. (Less, though, than we make it out to be. While it is rare, I know a lot of principals who are successful at “encouraging people to leave,” or whatever they call it.) Given that the D.C. goings-on are getting national attention, I figured I would offer up a few things worth considering:

1. The number of teachers didn’t faze me. But I would like to see more reported on the actual implementation of IMPACT and efforts like it. When you hear officials talk about them, they may make sense. But teachers can give us a clue if the observations, evaluations and feedback are taking place as advertised. That’s important to know. I have heard D.C. officials concede bumps in implementation; just how bumpy would help people judge whether they think the firings were hasty or not.

2. Do the IMPACT scores (most of which, for practical reasons, are not yet based on test scores) correlate with student outcomes? I believe the district is working on figuring this out—in the cases where they can; officials have not yet figured out how to measure performance of teachers and students in certain situations, classes, grades. When they answer this question, I hope they release the data publicly.

3. This is a hard nut to crack, harder than interviewing teachers to find out if their five observations and half-hour consultations with master educators happened, and harder even than correlating past outcomes with evaluations. Perhaps only the geeks among you care to continue with me here: It is important to ask whether IMPACT scores are predictive—if this is truly a valid and reliable measure. If IMPACT works as designed, it tells us how well a teacher did. But does it tell us how well she or he will do? This is worth asking not just because in the early years teaching quality improves with experience, but because I am not sure the value-added research tells us whether we know anything about teachers can repeat their successes. Will the evaluation of IMPACT consider that, say, by randomly assign teachers so that we can compare the performance of students with high-scoring teachers versus low-scoring ones?

If so many eyes are on the program, they’ll need something solid to look at.

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Blogger Jason Glass said...

Regarding #1, I'd bet that for those DC decided to remove, they have a pretty solid lock on process components. To move forward otherwise would unnecessarily expose the district legally.

Regarding #2, studies of the Teacher Advancement Program evaluation system, which is similar to IMPACT, done by John Schacter show a positive and significant correlation with student outcomes. Schacter notes that a great deal of work must be done to improve the reliability of the evaluators to make the association work. We use a similar evaluation tool in Eagle County Schools (CO) and I've replicated the approach and found a similar correlation, controlling for different evaluator effects. This, at least partially, validates Schacter's finding.

Regarding #3, Bill Sanders has done extensive work showing that the best predictor of future teacher success is past teacher success. Shocking I know...

Jason Glass

July 26, 2010 at 11:25 AM  
Anonymous CarolineSF said...

I keep wondering if the universally heard cry of "it's impossible to fire bad teachers" freezes principals into inaction.

Two examples in my life:

The unbelievably warm, welcoming, highly personable former principal at my kids' high school knew that one teacher was a huge problem, but "couldn't fire" him. He implied that the teacher was deemed disabled (mental illness?) and that that made it impossible.

That principal left and a new, veteran principal arrived -- within the range of normal on the "warm and welcoming" scale but a lot more businesslike. The teacher who "couldn't be fired" was rapidly, quietly gone. Go figure.

The worst problem teacher I've ever seen was at my kids' elementary school for one year, and the principal told us parents firmly that the teacher WOULD be there the following year no matter what we did. Parents mobilized; long story short, the teacher didn't come back. There had been a long series of events, including the teacher repeatedly abandoning her first-grade class and leaving school for the day; repeatedly breaking down crying in front of the class; and more. One morning, the kids were locked out of the classroom at the start of school; the principal went into the room and found the teacher asleep on the floor.

Somewhere in the parent protest process we were told just what reports from that year showed up in the teacher's file. There were two -- neither of them by the actual principal. One was from a teacher who had been acting principal for one day -- and the other was from a parent, me, based on my calling district offices after I heard about the kids locked out of the classroom.

In other words, management lameness seems to have been the looming problem here, not "it's impossible to fire bad teachers."

July 26, 2010 at 2:34 PM  
Anonymous bronxmathteach said...

re: #3 -

student population matters. success with an honors class does not translate into success with a remedial class, and vice versa. context is king and it seems that if we deal only with raw data, that might be forgotten.

that is especially tragic for teachers that excel in working with a troubled population. some of their students will NEVER show the kinds of results that students in a high performing environment will show. that doesn't make the teacher of high performing students better, but it APPEARS to.

this is a major problem i see, as a teacher.

July 26, 2010 at 3:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a DCPS parent and I have great concerns as to how this tool is being wielded at my child's Title I school. There isn't a value-added measure, so if 5th grade ELL student comes in reading at a K level, and the teacher raises this child to a second grade reading, the teacher is judged as a failure. That second grade reading level, though a huge improvement, would still score "below basic" on the DC-CAS. The measure of success is scoring "proficient" on the DC-CAS.

So, based on Rhee's standards both the child and the teacher have failed, even though the student made great strides. Moreover, if the school is populated heavily with students like I've described, you've got a real problem. This teacher will have 55% of their Impact score based on how these children performed on the DC-CAS.

Even of more concern is who will fill these positions? A TFA teacher with absolutely no experience? As a parent, I'm very worried.

Finally, I think Rhee ought be judged by the same standards that she uses to fire teachers Elementary school test scores in DCPS are now BELOW what they were prior to Rhee's arrival. Though all of her press releases counted 2007 scores, parents in the District know the children took the 2007 test prior to Rhee's arrival and her churn-inducing reform.

Despite teacher layoffs, 100s of principals being fired or quitting, school closure and the unending drama that has played out in the national media, Rhee has managed to LOWER student achievement on the elementary level in Washington DC. I can't help but wonder why that isn't on the front page of Time magazine?

BTW Linda, just read "Tested," which truly captures what's going on today in schools. Thank you. My child is at a school where the principal was still clinging to the notion that children deserved arts education, language instruction and actual learning in addition to a steady diet of test prep. Sadly, she just left and I'm wondering what my child could possibly get from the sort of test-prep curriculum that Michelle Rhee offers. Not looking forward to the 2010-11 school year....

July 27, 2010 at 2:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm 2:22 and this only gets worse:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/dc-schools/were-some-dc-teacher-dismissal.html

This is sickening.

July 28, 2010 at 4:47 PM  

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